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Conservative tells the truth about the theory of evolution page. Screen capture here.
Less lulzy than our regular WIGO's but fascinating if you don't know much about the wacky Unification Church and its founder Sun Myung Moon, i.e. the cult known as Moonies - Ed Poor, a Moonie himself, fights off information about Moon and the Church, and locks both pages, proclaiming himself the leading internet authority on the subject. Meanwhile, reasonable questions are asked but Ed deletes every mention and blocks all parties involved. UPDATE: People appeal to Andy, thinking that perhaps Ed has gone so far overboard that even Andy will see it. Will Andy intervene? no. He burns it instead.
Somehow I don't think love and truth are as useful as statistics and risk.
Pwning Aschlafly can get you places (that are not on CP).
If only it was this easy. And: Bleach the controversy!
"You are only allowed to add criticism of YEC if you also show why the criticism is wrong and unfounded. Also, it must be concise, just like our criticism of evolution is."
Say something nice about a lib? Are a Lib? Then it's BULLSHIT!!!
The *Sigh* response... Item #1 in the Liberal Style, says Andy. But unfortunately, no-one pays any attention to Andy.
Finally Bohdan puts a stop to the anti-liberal neocon rants of well-known conservative Gulik5.
"Headlights?!!?!" Do you mean "breasts," Ed? What are you, fourteen years old?
Best. Parthian Shot. Ever. Screenshot, just in case, you know, it get memory holed. UPDATE: Page 63 in the "I've been Pwned Playbook," Pretend you're not hurt and move on; see also "Redefining Douchery," with "Mr." Andrew Schlafly, "J.D." EVEN MORE DrCB, I think you may have started something Maybe Ed Poor shoulda blocked the good doctor? (Learn Together did it for him... and only then replies to an old discussion to claim victory by default)THE END: Good old Andy, reeling from the vicious beating dealt to him, removes the entire section, thus the great circle of life is complete my son.
Confirmed: Ed is a parodist.
Ed's got a bad day. A really bad day. UPDATE: Perfection only, please. Update 2: Tom Moore gives some useful advice which Ed immediately deletes, then blocks him.
Pointing out inaccuracies on the main page can get easily you into a lot of trouble. Loads. Then again, anything can get you into a lot of trouble on CP. (To be accurate, the 1-week block was likely for pointing out the truth elsewhere. Yes, one unapproved edit means you get a 1-week block on CP.)
To the gentleman at the other website. If you're going to put this on your breaking news page, then please note: Bill Gates has retired as CEO now; Steve Ballmer is your man, though I have no idea if he is an atheist or not.
Crocoite takes a tiny step out of HypocrisyLand^TM and has his username changed to "DeanS". Just because it's so damn catchy. Update: Maybe his trip out of HypocrisyLand^TM isn't that far. UPDATE:We just happen to know your real name isn't Zoe Brain!
What the fuck is this shit?
What's more hilarious in this exchange? That Conservative says about Google searches that his "IP address shouldn't be a problem" (educated translation guess: "I use proxies all the time anyway since I need to get around IP bans on forums I trolled on before") or that PJR points out how absolutely pointless Conservative's Google bragging is because everybody's mileage will vary? Deceit among the high seas! He deletes his talk page, burning all evidence, just for us. Update Simple lulz strike back. Update 2: And so do screencaps.
Get your filthy hands off MY article! More laughs from the site that doesn't allow article ownership. Bonus lulz Copyright? What's that? Update: Protection War!
Stand by...[1][2][3][4]..no, hang on...[5][6]....No, Stand by...[7] for more amazing developments!. I will send you a very important private email! I am marshalling troops deep into the Western Front, and Operation Illinois is ready to commence! Also, a note - for the dragon to "return," didn't he have to "come" in the first place?(backup image here and here)
~~HelpJazz~~ Kektklik can haz night edit rights! I guess his ~~months~~ ~~weeks~~ ~~days~~ hours of requests and hard work have finally paid off! Addendum: Oh for FUCK'S SAKE. Well, that guy is in Andy's class - it's a minor miracle that he only got edit rights and not sysop status for his great efforts in the highly important "The Aquabats" article.
Uhhh...you sure you want an answer to that last question, Ed? Seriously, do you?
Andy wallows in delusions of adequacy after NFlanders fails to find any Conservative sites recommending Conservapedia. Karajerk thanks NFlanders for his efforts.
Introducing Andy's most recent rant, "Liberal Gullibility" - and as usual, you can't argue against it or its examples without being cited and mocked as living proof for it. Update: the conservative counterpart is created, but dies fairly quickly.
Conservative attempts to discuss his latest secret message rationally. FAIL. EPIC FAIL. COMBO FAIL. Update: Wait... you mean if something's incorrect on a Wiki, you can fix it? Inconceivable!
A user asks for a response and you link to a week old response. Why don't you just tell him to go Copulate himself? UPDATE: Learn Together's act moves into the next stage as he tries very hard to emulate Andy's sneering.
Psst, Ed, your racism is showing|
Ed Poor shares a brawny vision of the world with Tom of Finland.
So ~~editors~~ contributors can't revert without discussion (but sysops can on a whim), and unmarked ideas are OK if conservative... but not if they're liberal! Wow, thanks for clarifying that, Eddie! This was over one single revert that Ed calls "edit warring", in which his edit removed imaginary liberal bias and put forth placement bias instead (it must be conservative bias to him though).Update: Lalalalala, I can't hear you, by the way, did you need that irony meter?
Ed proves once again that liberal bias is everywhere, sometimes it's just invisible to those without the omnipotence of sysops.
Criticism? What criticism? Update: That was just the warm-up, it seems!
One has to hope that the irony is not lost on the poster.|
O RLY? The proverbial nail in the coffin.
That's right Ed, your wikilinks are silly
Parodist alarms are sounding for me, as Deborah tells us about her former fascination with masturbation! Update: definitely a parodist. Animal rights?
Ed Poor asks a VERY uncomfortable question... Update: Lively discussion! Who invented the term first and will thus get credit for insulting Obama the most? Update 2: It's apparently settled, and Andy openly acknowledges that he simply made up the term.
Basket-weaving, terrorism, hot man-on-man action. it's all the same to Ed Poor.
Roger resurfaces to complain about him being blocked for conflict of interest on wikipedia and his refusal to follow rules.
Philip, we ask the same thing about your blog every day.
When uploading an image of Fidel Castro, what is more important than saying where you got it from and what license it falls under? Pointing out Google Cuba rankings for the Atheism article, of course! Andy then deletes it on the basis of "trimming" later.
Schlafly Speak: "based on" = "shamelessly stolen from", and "not yet consented" = "got caught".
We've worked hard to improve our reputation says Learn Together. You have? While we weren't watching, obviously!
Yet another Conservative Value: If you see wrongdoing, mind your own damn business!
Wait wait... Andy is telling someone that a made up expression (which isn't really made up) is incoherent|
Movie Talk, Conservapedia style: Tell up what you think... unless you didn't like it, then Shut the HELL up GET ONE FREE If you haven't seen the movie, your comment will be deleted, unless you're above the rules|
Conservapedia goes above and beyond the call of duty by blocking a user for daring to prove his/her point on the hypocrisy of the Expelled article.
Welcome to Phyllis' Book Club.
Maybe it's petty to pick on a native Spanish speaker, but WTF?
Evidence of Nessie had been faked? That's okay, since other people claimed to have seen it, too! And two months later, Ed Poor joins in and tries to get Nessie included on the Dinosaur article again.
The true irony in letting this edit stand is that on the Fox Noise page, they go out of their way to paint the channel as centrist including shouting down dissent on the talk page. Update: Reverted.
I wonder what the Anti-Defamation League would think of Andy's trivializing the actual causes for the Holocaust.
And again, the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
I think I need a scorecard for this stuff. Let's see, The word of Michael Behe, the most influential figure behind ID cannot be used to characterize ID, but an out of context quote by Darwin is plenty to indict the whole of evolutionary science.
So material on CP is distrubuted under GFDL now, Joaquín? I guess somebody forgot to tell Andy.
Because we haven't had a classic "Ed Poor makes my brain hurt" moment in a while: "Arguments about evolution" - Darwinism, the Holocaust, and how it's all so terribly unfair to ID and Creationism. PS: Ed, if you can't tell the difference, it may be time to stop editing.
CP's front page says, "L.A. Times: 'Expelled could exceed box-office forecasts!'" But strangely, if one bothers to read the article past that misleading title, it actually says that ""Expelled," with production and marketing budgets in the single-digit millions, is expected to make no dent at the box-office despite the widest documentary release ever." Swell!
New user ErskineChilders asks if CP should be able to handle criticism and gets a very direct answer.
- Commented out but here:Tolerance isn't welcome on Conservapedia.
So close, Ed. Now think for a minute just why nobody wants to help.
After making some talk edits, DaBoss receives his first 90/10 warning. His one contrib after that warning was to fix minor errors in one of his older reply, but that was too much already.
Andy asks a user to identify the copyright violations on his talk page two hours after Kangaroo blocked them. Kind of hard to explain what the violation is now. Maybe a registered letter from a lawyer to the DMCA agent would be a better course of action (kind of hard to block those).
If anybody asks you why you have so little respect for "Creation Science", tell them about how Tiktaalik is "actually an antediluvian laboratory chimera" and watch the fireworks. Then again, maybe TerryH had just been asleep at the wheel.
Here we go, time for Professor Style!.
An unappealing image of Ed Poor forms in my head. Update: Kettleofish questions his source.
Uh oh... When someone recommends a new "educational organization" and Ed Poor agrees and compliments their science, I get a sinking feeling that I may have to facepalm soon.......... Yep, I was right! Update OBJECTION!! MORE UPDATE: and nothing classes up a deranged post like a little fairy tale
Karajerk makes an uncited, vague reference in regards to something that happened 27 years ago. This is not going to sit well with smart people at all.
According to CP, atheism is a religion, but Andy (and thus CP) claims not to "discriminate based on religion" - yeah, right!
Bad reviews for Expelled:No Intelligence Allowed? No problem! We'll just 'improve' the article and do the totalitarian state thing. UPDATE: A publication must have a higher circulation than Conservapedia has page views to be approved by Andy. FINAL UPDATE: Actually, let's just remove any links to the most popular movie sites on the intarweb. Best not to think of it as a movie then.
Tell us about it.
Ed confirms the two-tier rule structure. Shocker.
"You keep saying that "evolution is science"—and by "evolution" I mean here [...]" - Lovely redefinition that is quickly followed by a lengthy rant about sedimentary rock, Dark Matter, and planet Vulcan.
Don't call people 'Smart Aleck' - call a spade a spade and just call them a Prick instead!
Reasonable discourse? We'll have none of that, thank you very much and Godspeed! PRE-UPDATE: Yeah..both of them.
Thousands of evolutionists will see Expelled on Day 1, and then they will all join CP to wandalize the article. Sure thing, Ed. Sure thing.
Stand back! Ed's going to try science! Oooooh. Mixed results.
I think Ed Poor has snapped, blocking then talking to himself.
With practically no non-sysop left to bully, Ed Poor rips into TerryH's article, but later feels remorse.
Evolutionist style is here! Just think, Schlafly now knows about Liberals, Feminists and Evolutionists... How about something he's really familiar with... like Mama's Boy Style or I'm F***ing Insane Style? (Reading it closely makes me suspect that TerryH is a satirist. Possibly an unconscious one.)|
- Next up, Old Age Pensioner Values.
Concise, dammit!
Ed broke yet another irony meter.
Once again, Andy is forced to lay out the Basic Rules of CP for an editor. It's so difficult to get decent editors these days. Wait, you'd like to establish clear standards? As in, a policy that sysops might actually be called out on? Well then, so be it - you're just a waste of Ed's precious time!.
Why is the irony meter reporting NUMBER TOO LARGE ERROR #46617 DIVISION BY ZERO? Ah of course. Karajou tells a new user not to try 'pushing your religious beliefs here'.
Tiger Woods: supremely talented professional golfer, or just another negro whose alleged success is the result of liberal interference?
Yes, the kool aid is wearing off of PJR - he's unblocked TomMoore, first blocked for, essentially, calling Ed Poor on his idiocy. Perhaps PJR has come to realize that "making Ed realize his idiocy" shouldn't be a blocking offense.
Kenservative sings the praise of Fox News for being "fair & balanced" and their being known for treating evangelical and fundamentalist Christians with great respect. The article is locked so it must all be true in a kind of "the truth shall set you free" kind of way. Fox News publish a review of Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, apparently a big NO NO at the wacky world of Chicaneopedia. It would seem the "fair & balanced" Fox News isn't all what it is made out to be and the trustworthy encyclopedia can't be trusted. UPDATE: Allowed, with qualifications, by The Boss. MORE: Of course, it's wrong to say "Fox News's Roger Friedman". It must be clarified that he's a liberal who's not really with Fox News. He just writes a bit on their website...
Andy's shameless parsing would make Bill Clinton blush. Just how ambiguous does he think "From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School" is, anyway?
After his questions were erased and his intelligence was insulted, MilesM snaps.
One of the perks of being sysop: Being able to lock your talkpage once people start asking questions about your behavior.
- It's official! User:C has the hots for Ricardo Montalbán (AKA:Ricardo Gonzálo Pedro Montalbán Merino), and he admits that RW users are smarter than him!
There's a chance of libel on the Trusworthy Encyclopedia? No problem, we just have to get a cite from a reliable source. After all, how hard could that be? UPDATE: Not so hard when you completely ignore the reliable part. Hi Karajou, thanks for reading
Hey, you women out there, Andy knows how to spell your name better than you do.
Tolerance is shown some intolerance over at Conservapedia. And Ed succumbs to the urge to disagree by deleting. Update The revisions continue: [8] [9] [10]
Ah, Niandra... So close, and yet so far.
Really? I don't see the connection. Maybe they just need a few more examples. Update: I see by this that somebody over Uncle Andy's traveling roadshow, or How those little boys ended up in the trunk of my carthere is reading my WIGO. I feel ~~ashamed~~ honored.
If there are that few violent criminals, then why, exactly, do you need a largely defensive weapon of gun in the first place?
Sure ~~Bodhan~~ HenryS, let's have Kettleklik follow a non-existent guideline on a site that Andy despises. That'll work. Or is this just more sweeping things under the rug?
More debate from the Assfly: "look up professor Obama's campaign has nothing to do with him being a Senator..." Seeing how dumb that sounds, he just rambles on philosophically I hear Conservapedia can also cure baldness and genital warts... is that true TK?|
Lets take a look at Ed and his Bans for the day shall we? Hmmmm interesting You dare to state a non whitewashed opinion?GONE Who's next? You dare question me? You can just take a walk You vill do nusing vitout my OK So Gootbye God, He's Like a monkey with a mallet|
Ed faces resistance from an invulnerable user, a bosom-buddy of the Schlaflinator who cannot be banned. When forced to argue, defend himself, and face criticism rationally... what will Ed do!? UPDATE - Kettleklick plays with fire.
Schlafly's made up a new Conservapedia Term!!!! It's "Feminist Style"! Feminists, you see, have no sense of humor. Apparently, they don't appreciate the humor behind Andy's butt-pinches.
- (reason is, user was banned) ...Seriously Ed, why the heck did you revert this edit? A good reason...heck, any reason, would be nice.
Deborah fails at reverting wandalism.
I can has writing plan? Also, mai conspiracy theery, let me show u it.
Point: Mr Andy Sir... I think it might be a little hypocritical to mock Obama while claiming that only liberals do that don't you? Counterpoint: No Point: but you're obviously mocking him Counterpoint: NO Point: But look please look Extra Point: I agree, here's why Counterpoint: NO NO NO!!!! (Reader's digest: "Obama falsely claimed that he was a constitutional law professor", no matter what the University of Chicago News Office says!) More: We won't even refer to him as "Senator" if we judge his acts non-senatorial! Again: ~~Liberal~~ Mockery is okay as long as Andy does it "carefully."
Given how much CP sysops rely on doing everything behind closed doors via mails and IMs, it's slightly ironic to see Andy insisting on a public interview.
Andy won't let our poor irony meter recover: Conservapedia, the site that demonizes liberals in every way you can imagine (and then some) presents... "Demonizing conservatives"!
"Please support your claim better here, with quotations" - Well, Andy, maybe you should have actually looked at the source supplied in the stuff you reverted...
Your work isn't ready yet? Well, screw you, hippie! This isn't about what you want!
Looks like somebody caught JM with his hands in the cookie jar, and Assfly actually does something about it. (The photo's been reverted to its unadorned state on the original site.)
Exactly who here is frivolous?
If you're going to bash baseball, at least get your geography straight. Toronto isn't in the US Ahem! But it is (North) American. So there!
Something tells me Conservative will get slapped for his "Gentlemen at another site" messages: After Bohdan's attempt at damage control spectacularly backfired, Bohdan hastily wipes out the section, only to be confronted by a very disillusioned user.
A paragraph scolding a magazine for getting a name wrong... got the name of the magazine wrong.
Apparently, Ed Poor is losing some support at home.
Aww, isn't Kowardjou cute when he stamps his little feet?
WOW. "The atrocities of slavery in America have been widely exaggerated."
John 7:53-8:11 is not a True Scotsman.
Okay, who's Yousoundperfect?
If your two first contribs are on talk pages, you will be perma-banned before having the chance to make mainspace edits. Update: 1 out of 8 edits are in the mainspace? Perma-ban!
If you don't make 50 mistakes a day, you were probably blocked after the first one by a d*** in a sysop suit
Deborah, one of the most prolific editors of late, is blocked for not doing what she's told (naughty girl!).
"Avoid like the plague anything which simply makes some ideological point." My irony meter just burst, thanks to that latest revelation from Lyin' Ed.
A battle of wits with an unarmed sysop.
And finally, they came for the userboxes, repeatedly. And there was no-one left to speak up for me. (It's OK to make fun of Bill Clinton, but not Ronald Reagan. Love that double-standard.)
I'll take "Wait, what?" for 400, Alex: "it's not "cross-dressing" in the homosexual sense - it's just a disguise"
Who cares about Shakespeare, anyway? If nothing links to it, it's easier to delete it than to actually create something that links to it! Erratum: Apparently, it was just either a redirect or a redundant article. The real deal is this concise article.
Welshman unleashes his Parthian Shot. Note that PJR may be on the outs with Schlafly and all the other Elite Cabal of Ignorance at CP, but at least he still gets some love from the rational crowd.UPDATE: A shout-out to HelpJazz, who acknowledges the futility of his quest. UPDATE: AusingP gets blocked for personal remarks by pointing out Ed's personal remarks. UPDATE #3: Same goes for TomMoore and Welshman - three ~~editors~~ contributors banned (FOREVER) for something that was started by Ed Poor. YET ANOTHER UPDATE: Ed gets proactive, tries to cut down on future complaints.
Gods below, what a screaming drama queen Joaquín is. Have they installed that fainting couch yet? But then, look at his mentor.
Creationism is perfectly falsifiable! It can be falsified by proving that some part of Jesus' life didn't happen the way the Bible says or by proving that extraterrestrial life exists! (Note: Check the history - it's not parody.) So, you can falsify it if you first prove to be false an unfalsifiable assertion of faith. Folks, you have to get through the hard outer shell of bullshit to get to the juicy center.
If it wasn't Karajou posting this on the mainpage, I would have thought it's parody: Disrupting class by taking a cell phone call is perfectly okay, according to CP. I'm sure Andy's homeschool kids are allowed to take calls as much as they like! Update: Ah, so it's a distraction, but only giving a warning should have been fine... especially since "it's the American soldier who ensures that those teachers have a job."
Andy will de-liberalize any balanced entry in under 30 minutes, or the next one's free! Example: 21:08 - Praise for a balanced article. 21:35 - Liberal bias removed.
Somebody who went to primary/grammar school, vocational school and took on an apprenticeship still counts as homeschooled as long as he is self-taught in something like engineering. That's what you get for cherry-picking your ~~blogs~~ super-reliable sources! (For more info, see our closer analysis here.)
After Karajou posted a news item about a teenager being beaten up in a public school, somebody points out that it didn't happen at school, but Kara defends his version. Apparently, he then actually read the article and corrected the news item anyway. The resulting discussion section is a sight to behold: Kara does his 180° turn without even blinking.
NEW SYSOP ALERT!!!! Another day, another slap in the face for Helpjazz.
Thou shalt not mention the FBI.Or else.
Andy simply first points his way around his blog. And he'll simply second point you if you challenge his grammar, beotch.
(Commented out)A first-year PhD student has better credentials than most evolutionists.
Simple rules? I thought only Liberals were capable of deceit.
RationalWiki brings you up-to-the-minute updates in the title match, TK v. Decency. On the side of TK, we have T-eamK-iller, Joaquin "oblivious" Martinez, Ed "dontbeadick" Poor, and Geo "pavingwithgoodintentions" Plrd. On the side of Decency, we have ~~Fox~~, ~~TerryH~~ (cowardly hiding in a corner), ~~Andy Schlafly~~ (also hiding), and Philip "raptorridinjesus!" Rayment! The parties are dancing back and forth and... PJR throws the first punch! Which TK ducks! Stay tuned for more Ides of April updates!
I can't decide whether this move should be filed under "Truth in advertising" or "Adding insult to injury".
Mmmmm That's a classy graphic they've stuck on the main page. 3D rotating logos always look good, right?
The irony meter has just reached all new levels. Come on PJR, any other editor would have gotten an infinite ban, not a measly 6 hours TK Uses the word 'Shame' 9 times in one rant and gets a ban of 40 minutes each!
Wow. StevenM is an idiot.
Joaquin hangs it up. So will he be banned and stripped of sysopship, like has been done to others in the past when they've taken sabbatical? Or, will Andy get to the bottom of this? Bonus speculation Could this be a setup to get back at PJR for messing with his Mind/body ~~cut/paste jamboree~~ article? Update #2: TK takes his ball, too, blaming... PJR for driving Joaquin away. But does anyone here actually think TK's leaving? Update #3: If TK didn't fan the flames of paranoia a bit, well then it just wouldn't be CP, would it? Update #4: Nothing to see here! Move along! (Especially nice how this purge basically comes just a few hours after PJR defended himself - wanna bet that Andy didn't and now will never read it?)
According to Andy, getting a name wrong shows that you're clueless about the subject. I guess that means that Andy is clueless about the International Court of Justice for example...
Wait wait... there's a word for this... what is it? Oh yeah PWNED Take that TK|
Don't mock Andy's mommy, or he'll getcha! Mock your mommy, Andy? "Either back up your alleged quotations with citations or they will be removed", Andy? How's this: A Google search for the quoted string "in-home sales parties for abortions" yields 110 hits. Every one of them appears to be from your mother. Even allowing that some of them were copied from others, that's a lot of evidence. UPDATE: The citations have been added, what will Andy do now? UPDATE: What castle? Castle?? (and what justification)? UPDATED UPDATE: The gauntlet is thrown. Update^3: "Books are only an accepted source when they got many Amazon reviews, so STFU!"
Sociology has surprisingly little to do with sociology. Seems more like a life science to Ed. Also, Ed's grasp of the Ten Commandments seems rather tenuous - "Thou shalt not do no murder," huh? See why we say intelligent design makes you stupid?
Another gem from Ed Poor: being gay is like being a homicidal spider, which is incidentally kind of the same as getting an abortion. Also, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength. Update: Let's insult banned and retired users!
Andy S notes that claim(ing) expertise beyond one's area of expertise is a liberal trick. Nothing like a lawyer claiming medical knowledge? eh Andy?
First, Ed blocks a user for complaining at the Administrative Abuse board, which he considers to be an insult to him (but calling people "a dick" is not an insult, note). Wow. Then, he reverts and blocks a user for pointing out that he was wrong, but now PJR is asking the same questions. How will Ed squirm out of this one? And Tiberius tells it like it is But Kajagoogo reverts! And Blocks!!!
Seriously, why does CP even keep AFDs around when sysops will just make arbitrary decisions anyway?
You can just see TK waving his banhammer. Pity he aint got it back! (yet) Update - TK rejects your reality and substitutes his own!
The way Andy thinks:'We don't categorize people by race.' Hmm, I better change things so that's actually true.[11]