Talk:Disproving Evolution

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[edit] Inspiration

This article was inspired by HG’s question:"Please explain how common descent can be disproved? Try not to repeat commonly spewed canards like pre-cambrin rabbits, which, if discovered, would simply cause evolutionists to re-arrange their mythical tree of life." --Bob_M (talk) 14:23, 16 June 2007 (CDT)


I know it's around somewhere, I was just reading it a while ago. but where is HG's original question? --Kels 14:42, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

Trying to use a permanent link: http://www.rationalwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Online_banking_authentication_recommendations&oldid=15738 that can't be right. Ok it's here: Essay Talk:Online banking authentication recommendations --Bob_M (talk) 15:04, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
And what a strange place for it to be, indeed! humanbe in 17:17, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

I added a section specifically about disproving common descent. I know HG was attempting to paint the TOE as a conspiracy theory, but he did ask about common descent. humanbe in 17:17, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

Yes, I should have included something on that. I'm not sure I agree with your extraterrestrial point though. In one sense it obviously true that it would falsify common descent in a universal sense, but it's usually used to refer to life on earth isn't it?--Bob_M (talk) 05:57, 17 June 2007 (CDT)
I was just covering all the bases. And extraterrrestrial life would not necessarily invalidate CD - if it turned out that we were related. But, yes, it's a stretch. The point is, CD is not required by the TOE (so disproving it is a straw man), it just happens to be an observed fact on earth, so far. humanbe in 13:10, 17 June 2007 (CDT)
Yes, that's a good point. I must admit that I hadn't quite looked at it like that. But now that you mention it I can see that it's obviously true. Thanks. --Bob_M (talk) 13:52, 17 June 2007 (CDT)


Test

And what a fantastic test it was.--Bob_M (talk) 14:11, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
I liked the movie better. --Kels 14:21, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
(I've moved this below "inspiration" sorry for messing up the timing.)--Bob_M (talk) 14:23, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
Hell of a book.--Bob_M (talk) 14:26, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
Incredible. Now we can release the beta version! humanbe in 17:17, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
Test?--PalMD-yada yada 18:18, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

[edit] Falsifiability

I created a page at CP several months ago that I think got wiped. It was a "Falsifiability Challenge" with a Section for EVO and one for ID. The evo one filled up with ideas quickly, the ID one did not. I put out a call for contributions, and PhilR put in a big diatribe about falsifiability, etc, without ever answering the question. I wouldn't mind posting a: ID-Falsifications:____--PalMD-yada yada 18:22, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

You mean a list of things that would be needed to falsify ID? Great companion article I'd say. --Bob_M (talk) 13:53, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

[edit] Canard

By the way, based on the original discussion that inspired this article, I created canard. It struck me as odd that pre-cambrian rabbits were discounted as a "canard" without stating why they were considered that way, and by whom. --Kels 18:36, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

Yes, I eventually followed most of that circuitous thread. Rabbits aren't ducks. One thing YEC people like to do, and I'm sure you've noticed, is to keep slightly changing the topic, and to throw "hand grenades" into other conversations - where they think their canard will go unargued, since it isn't the topic. I think it was cool that you ran with HG's comment (and did others, too?) and it spawned 3 or 4 articles. "One thing I have noticed is that conservatives love to parade their favorite canards in arguments to distract their opponent" - Ashfly. humanbe in 19:05, 16 June 2007 (CDT)
Nice point. I like that is spawns new articles. It's the whole point. YECs and others with odd beliefs like to say that rational argument supports them, until either they are losing or don't understand; then they change the subject, etc.--PalMD-yada yada 19:25, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

[edit] Article naming

There is presently a discussion about the naming of challenge articles in general taking place at Talk:Disproving Creationism. Anybody watching this page may wish to contribute.--Bob_M (talk) 05:27, 2 September 2007 (CDT)

[edit] Picture

If there is a way to shrink down the picture, please do so. If not, and it is too encumbering, feel free to remove it. I just thought it was a fitting tribute to the misunderstandings of evolution. Speakerface keep spinning, FOXholes 21:34, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

Done did fixed, thanks for asking. ħuman ingenuity 01:22, 10 October 2008 (EDT)
Thanks. I learn as I go. Speakerface keep spinning, FOXholes 06:50, 10 October 2008 (EDT)
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