RationalWiki:Article of the Weak
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Article of the Weak: Conservapedia's Barack Obama article
The U.S. Presidential election is near, and Conservapedia is in an uproar over the prospect of the impending communist take over. Their Barack Obama article articulates all of the fear-mongering, rumor mill-fueled, reactionary politics that has likely cost John McCain the election -- but this time it is Andy style. Take a look at Conservapedia's article, and then browse the recommending reading below, and let us know what you think:
- Wikipedia's Barack Obama article
- RationalWiki offers a hint as to why Andy hates Obama
- Finally, RationalWiki's own Barack Obama article
- This commentary at the Nation Magazine opens with a bit of parody that could well be based on the Conservapedia article.
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Comments:
| Conservapedias distinct seperation from reality as their massive level of hatred to any one who is different to themselves. This article shoult be held up high as an example to the right wing and their stupidity and bigotry. --ghengilhar Nov, 01 2008 at 14:13 |
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| This article is so biased it's funny. I had a good laugh reading the nonsense in the article. --Warren Nov, 01 2008 at 19:53 |
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| This is the first one of these I couldn't finish. It's a complete hatchet job, a party political broadcast pretending to be an encyclopedia. Ah, if only people read Conservapedia as a source of information instead of for the lulz, this screaming pile of fundie mentalism would leads multitudes to vote Obama. -- Totnesmartin Nov, 02 2008 at 16:30 |
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| dammit! my sock tehninja got blocked for editing it to lessen the lies slightly. I got reverted by the Assfly himself, though. --theemperor Nov, 02 2008 at 18:21 |
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| Horrible, horrible article! Too much fear-mongering, racism, speculation and outright lies. However, one wonders what Mr. Adam Schafly is hoping to achieve? He is trying to sway voters? Doubtful. Since most sane, normal people would not read or take conservapedia seriously, who is this article geared towards? This article seems to only be a delusional justification from ASShafly as to why he and is cronies won't vote for Mr. Barack Obama. --Anonymous Nov, 04 2008 at 13:45 |
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| I find it terribly sad that the only reply to "we should mention that Obama's grandmother died" is "it's likely a liberal lie". Disgusting. --DR Chappell Nov, 04 2008 at 16:31 |
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| I find it bitterly ironic that that one of the first arguments on the CONSERVAPEDIA page on Barack Obama is about "mind control." I mean, WTF. -- Linkthewindow Nov, 06 2008 at 0:58 |
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| Funniest unintentional parody article on all of Conservapedia. The only effect of this joke of a biography could be to make opposition to Obama based on Wright or Ayers look ridiculous by association with "He's a secret Muslim who was not born in Hawaii." Now that he's President-elect I just want to thank Andy for doing his part. Poe's law strikes again! -- Godspeed Nov, 06 2008 at 12:51 |
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| Funniest unintentional parody article on all of Conservapedia. The only effect of this joke of a biography could be to make opposition to Obama based on Wright or Ayers look ridiculous by association with "He's a secret Muslim who was not born in Hawaii." Now that he's President-elect I just want to thank Andy for doing his part. Poe's law strikes again! -- Godspeed Nov, 06 2008 at 12:51 |
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| There is no way he is serious. --bodkyn Nov, 06 2008 at 13:37 |
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lmao
Obama will likely become the first Muslim to be sworn in as President, on January 20, 2009, and could select the Koran for this purpose. that has me so hard laughing,any one notice they also have the picture of him with his hand not over is heart..a realy neuteral picture right there. --Anonymous Nov, 06 2008 at 22:34 |
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| I voted for John McCain, but I LOVE the fact that Andy has to stew in the fact that Barack is our president. I fucking love it! --Anonymous Nov, 07 2008 at 13:38 |
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| I sent the conserv*pedia link to a good friend of mine. Believing it to be an elaborate parody, her response was: "That's pretty funny. The bit about mind control techniques hidden in his campaign logo is brilliant :)"
I bought multiple newspapers, to any children or grandchildren I have in the future...I hope to God that the vile filth spouted on conservapedia will be looked back on with the same shame that modern America would perceive, say, the views of George Wallace. --your clueless about grammer and spelling Nov, 08 2008 at 10:43 |
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| Andy just can't give up the long disproven notion that Obama is a "secret muslim". What's hilarious is that one of the proof he uses to "prove" that Obama is a Muslim was a joke that Obama told about how "McCain hasn't talked about 'my Muslim faith' for a while...", which was his attempt to make light of the storm of accusations about him being a Muslim. Schlafley's efforts have never been lower. Let Conservapedia be a testament to America's stupidity movement. --David W. Irish Nov, 13 2008 at 14:52 |
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| What the?
Seriously, WHAT THE HELL. Has Andrew Schlafly completely gone off his nut? Read the talk page and tell me he hasn't. The guy's obviously gone completely stark raving insane over the election results, and has decided he's going to create the most parodic piece he possibly can - completely unintentionally. The guy desperately needs mental help. Wow. --Tony Nov, 13 2008 at 18:04 |
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| The Obama article is a masterpiece of fundy bias, paranoia, illogic, and fear rhetoric. The difference between the CP and WP articles is stark. One sounds almost encyclopedic, the other comes across as little more than a wingnut blog filled with half-truths and accusations. I was actually surprised that CP offered any relevant facts at all, and even then, it was dripping with strongly-biased editorializing. What is funnier is that the article is frequently locked and controlled by the fringe right Admins; the history page shows repeated attempts by more moderate contributors to tone down the rhetoric and BS, and neutralize the language. But CP's Admins lack the intellectual honesty needed to allow that to happen. Obama's election is the icing on the cake: instead of ignoring him, CP will have to deal with him for (at least) the next four years. I look forward to seeing what else they can come up with. --Newton Nov, 14 2008 at 3:19 |
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| haha I loved comparing this to John McCain's article!
what a load of crazy garbage! --Anonymous Nov, 22 2008 at 21:08 |
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| Andy added the 'alledgedly' back to 'born in Honolulu' today; even though the last section of the article addresses the validation of PE Obama's birth certificate by Factcheck.org and by the state of Hawaii. His obvious personal animosity is keeping this article even fruitcakier than most on his site. --Groo Nov, 28 2008 at 11:33 |
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| wow! thannks for this website. I came upon Conservapdedia about a week ago, read the Obama article and thought I had come across a joke site---I guess I did come across a joke site, Conservapdedia just doesn't realize it yet. -- Tonebold Nov, 29 2008 at 21:14 |
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| The "secret muslim" claim is obviously intended to read "terrorist". And where does this place Michelle Obama? The wingnut who dreamed this up didn't really think through the implications. -- Alloco1 Nov, 29 2008 at 4:40 |
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| Normally CP's lies are hilariously inconsequential, but this is just hacking away. I don't see how anyone could believe this when the man got 65 million votes. Are they secretly implying Americans are too stupid to understand the "truth"? Yes. -- Snotbowst Nov, 30 2008 at 22:10 |
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| Karl Rove must be proud. The article is does essentially nothing but perpetuate any and all smears against Obama, including ones which have been thoroughly debunked and others that haven't been simply because they're too ridiculous for even most Republicans to stomach. Not born in the U.S? Check. A secret Muslim? Check. A secret Ayers fan and possible terrorist? You betcha. What's funny is that a neutral person who actually takes the time to wade through the drivel could easily become disgusted enough to sympathize with Obama. -- Bayes Oct, 26 2008 at 13:41 |
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| Holy hell, I didn't realise the article actually kicked off with "Obama and Islam" and a straight forward "Obama will be the first Muslim president". Andy is such a See You Next Tuesday.... -- Armondikov Oct, 26 2008 at 19:32 |
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| Basically just a checklist of how the Republicans hope people view Obama. Except here it was written by a complete goddamn fucktard. -- DerangedGenius Oct, 26 2008 at 20:33 |
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| If any article can be used to indicate that CP is simply Andy's blog posing as an encyclopaedia, it must be this one. It sets out from the opening picture to throw as much mud, hysteria and insanity as possible at the man. It's abundantly clear that this goes way beyond party political differences and clearly shows that Andy has a deep, pathological hated for the man. Amazing what jealousy can do. -- Psygremlin Oct, 27 2008 at 17:28 |
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| I must admit to having trouble getting through the whole article. I began to feel a little queasy at all the hate and gossip mongering in the article. I personally have never read a more disgusting and deliberately false account of someone before. -- Damo Oct, 28 2008 at 0:52 |
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| Jesus...Christ...
The first articel is a bunch of examples "PROVING" that Obama is a Muslim. There isn't a single sentence in the entire article that puts him in a positive light. After a while I just red the subtitles and they were just as bad. I can't take much more of this. --Anonymous Oct, 28 2008 at 12:56 |
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| I apologize for my bad spelling --Anonymous Oct, 28 2008 at 12:56 |
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| They're not just hoping their readers are too dumb to understand references; they're banking on it!
</p> "born, allegedly in Honolulu" with an endnote pointing to a birth certificate stating location of birth as Honolulu. |
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| What a mind-numbing load of hate! There's no attempt to inform the reader; it's just a compilation of everything that anyone has ever said against Obama. It's hard to decide which aspect of this article is more offensive: the lies or the spin. But there is some humor too: did y'all notice the statement [quoted below] that Roosevelt's only communication with the Axis or Japanese was when he surrendered unconditionally to them?!! Yes, I know this is just Andy's poor grasp of English grammar leading him to say the opposite of what he means, but after all, he claims that any slip by Obama reveals a Deep Evil Hidden Meaning. And by the way, although it's a grotesque lie to say that Obama is Muslim, it is even more grotesque and despicable to imply that it's somehow bad to be a Muslim. Just pure hate-mongering.
</p> This is my first time on RW, so, hello everyone! [Here's the funny quote, it's in the section with the enlightening heading "Statements": "(Franklin Delano) Roosevelt spoke with none of the Axis or Japanese leaders and the the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender." |
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| My question is this: Even IF Obama is a muslim, which I find extremely doubtful, WHAT DOES IT MATTER?! Aren't conservatives the ones who preach about freedom of religion? This article devotes an entire section to "proving" that Barack Obama is a muslim, but quite frankly I don't see the relevance - UNLESS they're trying to say that being a muslim is in some way a bad thing, in which case they violate their own freedom of religion statute (and prove themselves to be prejudicial bigots at the same time). --Ron Oct, 29 2008 at 16:53 |
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| Just when you think it can't get any more ridiculous, they add a section to the intro indirectly blaming Obama for the recent murder of Jennifer Hudson's family in Chicago. Evidently, Obama voted against legislation in the Illinois state Senate that (somehow) would have prevented it. Completely unsubstantiated mudslinging. Par for the course, I guess. --Lowell Oct, 29 2008 at 18:17 |
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| Colin Powell had the best response to the "he's a Muslim" lie.
Besides, "so what if he is?", Powell stated something like, "I've seen photos of a grave at a military cemetery. It doesn't have a cross, it doesn't have a star of David, it has an Islamic crescent. I dare anyone to look at the mother of that soldier and tell her that her son's religion disqualified him from the Presidency." --MDB Oct, 30 2008 at 8:25 |
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[edit] Fundamentalism
Fundamentalism is strict adherence to a set of "fundamental" beliefs. It can be used to describe a person, a group, or a movement. These fundamentals, be they scripture or pronouncements from a charismatic leader, are followed no matter how strong the evidence against them. Since these fundamentals are "truth", different groups of fundamentalists are inherently at odds with each other and with the community at large. This often leads to an exaggerated feeling of persecution.
An article too influenced by fundamentalism will find its legitimacy weakened by reliance on ideology over fact. Hallmarks of fundamentalism include immutable "facts" about what is or isn't so, regardless of data; the article may assume that everyone must believe these facts to be considered morally good or to be allowed to have an opinion. Fundamentalist arguments often rely themes of "good versus evil", and arguments based on technicalities or semantics rather than facts and data. Quote mining, in which others' words are altered to conform to one's own beliefs, is a hallmark of fundamentalist writing.
[edit] Authoritarianism
Authoritarian arguments ignore fact in favor of personality. Writing that has authoritarian qualities discourages thought on the part of the reader and encourages obedience. Rather than using data to support an idea, authority figures are invoked and their ideas accepted without question. This is especially visible when societal problems are addressed. Rather than arguing from facts or morals, an authoritarian style will invoke the opinion of a leader as the best solution.
Propaganda is a common style associated with authoritarianism. If you feel you are being lectured to and called to action, especially against some sort of "enemy", you may be reading authoritarian literature.
[edit] Fear of "others"
Fear of "others" is a jingoistic approach to discussion. It sets up an "us vs. them" dichotomy, whether or not one truly exists. Implied in this style is that the writer is right, and the "other" is wrong---independent of facts.
This style includes racist, sexist, and nationalist writing, but it can be subtle. Traditionally positive traits such as pride can be subtly racist. Patriotism can cross over into jingoist nationalism.
Fear of the other interferes with rational discourse, as it devalues others' beliefs and dehumanizes those from the "out" group. Recognizing this writing style helps identify bias that can harm rational discourse. Look for writing that speaks derisively of others whether or not the facts support such a negative view. Also, watch for arguments that assume someone is wrong simply because they are from a different group.
[edit] Hypocrisy
Hypocrisy does not immediately invalidate an argument. To dismiss an argument for hypocrisy alone is a logical fallacy known as tu quoque. However, hypocrisy raises red flags. For example, when a politician wears the mantle of libertarianism and at the same time calls for government intrusion into private lives, their ideas deserve careful scrutiny---if the ideals are not even actively valued by the writer or speaker, the premises should be evaluated more closely.
Hypocrisy can poison an argument---hypocritical arguments require very close scrutiny.
[edit] Denial of reality
This is the bread and butter of fringe lunatics. Denialism is a refusal to acknowledge reality, evidence, and the scientific method. To evaluate an article for denialism, take a look at the argument being made and see if it is based on coherent logic and empirical evidence. If instead it is a collection of mined quotes, logical fallacies, and conspiracy theories, finding any valid arguments will be nearly impossible.
Denial of reality is sometimes manifested as a "reversal" of the scientific method - starting with a set of beliefs and attempting to make reality conform to them. Inconvenient facts are usually ignored. Non-falsifiable arguments are also characteristic. If the data is inconvenient, a denialist can always invoke a conspiracy theory or a Goddidit gambit.
[edit] Incoherence
The writing of cranks is often incoherent. It wanders aimlessly, follows tangents, and sometimes dissolves into "word salad". If you read an argument and don't understand it, the problem might not be you. Is the writing clear? Do the thoughts flow from one idea to the next? Is the writing filled with non sequiturs?
Content can suggest incoherence but so can presentation. Just as capital letters are the internet equivalent of shouting, nausea-inducing use of conflicting colors, blinking text, random capitalization, liberal sprinklings of consecutive exclamation marks, and horrid font choices may indicate shattered thought processes.
Since the ability to actually communicate one's ideas is the first step in rational discourse, the degree of incoherence embedded in much fringe writing is an important trait.
[edit] Dogmatism
Dogmatism is when a belief or person is presented as so above reproach that it must be accepted on its basic authority; and as such, not to be doubted or disputed. Fringe ideas tend not to change since the dogma was first established. Any research or experimentation that is carried out in the field is generally done more to justify the belief than to improve knowledge.
Any challenge to the dogma will be met with hostility and attacks on the critic's character or motives. This creates a debate loop where the same arguments and counter-arguments are seen time and again.
[edit] Martyr complex
Martyrdom is the last refuge of the true crank. When the rejection of a person's crank ideas gets to be too much, the only thing left to do is throw themselves under a bus for their idea. The earlier stages of a martyr complex are usually noted by making self-parallels to Jesus Christ and Galileo, while the later stages often include loss of jobs, friends, family, housing, and sanity. For some causes a broken-down hermit is the end option, while the end point of other causes might be jail or worse.
[edit] Anger
Conspiracy theorist, fundamentalist loons, proponents of rejected science and medicine often seem to have some serious anger issues. Sometimes the seething hatred is so strong you can practically feel it radiating from your computer screen. Whether this anger comes from being largely laughed at or ignored, or because deep down inside they know they have devoted their lives to complete idiocy is left for the reader to decide.
[edit] Hijacking real science
Hijacking real science is a ploy used in quack medicine, pseudoscience and woo to make claims sound more realistic. It can take several forms. One is using a methodology of research that has surface similarity to the scientific method but which lacks rigor, controls and submissions to peer review. Another is in hijacking the use of scientific language but without an understanding of the actual concepts behind the words. Quantum physics seems particularly prone to this sort of hijacking.
[edit] Conspiracy based thinking
Conspiracy based thinking is particularly common in pseudoscience and quack medicine. It is usually used to explain limited evidence and why every intelligent expert in the relevant fields of knowledge have rejected or ignored the claim as the byproduct of a vast worldwide conspiracy.
[edit] Equivocation
Equivocation is a logical fallacy that relies on the different meanings a word can have in different contexts. It is a favorite fallacy of creationists and woo hucksters alike. It can be used both to seemingly belittle a concept or idea, or to raise one up to false pretenses. Probably the most common example is the creationist use of the phrase "evolution is just a theory." This is an equivocation of the term "theory" as it is used in common parlance versus the specific meaning it has in science. Other times it can be used to disguise bullshit, like in sham quantum physics where people like Deepak Chopra use equivocation to make their ideas sound like they have some basis in reality.
A political version would be asserting that all Socialists are Nazis, because the Nazis called themselves the "National Socialist Party".

