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[edit] Why is mentioning that islam means "submission" a problem"?
The word "Islam" means "submission" in Arabic and not "peace" like many followers claim. Any problem ? Dr. Dolittle 14:40, 27 December 2007 (EST)
Yup. Problem having to do with root words, the closeness of the concepts and etymologies of of "Islam" and "Salaam," and the difficulties of making direct translations from arabic to English. PFoster 14:42, 27 December 2007 (EST).
- And for that reason you deletted mine contribution at the article? Dr. Dolittle 16:39, 27 December 2007 (EST)
- Uh-huh. 'Cause your contributions relied on strict literal translations which don't account for the way that Arabic works. In other words, your contributions were pretty much wrong, and were also, I believe, done in a spirit to make Islam look like something that it is not. PFoster 16:43, 27 December 2007 (EST)
- Other wiki's also mention that "islam" is arabic for "submission". So I put it back Dr. Dolittle 12:20, 28 December 2007 (EST)
- Uh-huh. 'Cause your contributions relied on strict literal translations which don't account for the way that Arabic works. In other words, your contributions were pretty much wrong, and were also, I believe, done in a spirit to make Islam look like something that it is not. PFoster 16:43, 27 December 2007 (EST)
- And for that reason you deletted mine contribution at the article? Dr. Dolittle 16:39, 27 December 2007 (EST)
[edit] Do write rationals write ramadan, sharia ect with capitals
Dr. Dolittle 07:44, 29 December 2007 (EST)
- Ramadan, yes, because that's the name of a month, just like 'July'. Sharia, no, because that's a common noun. As to what I assume is the reason behind your question, using capitals is a question of proper grammar, not of showing respect towards the concept or not, and should under no circumstances be politicised. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 07:51, 29 December 2007 (EST)
- Just like when we aren't being totally snarky, the atheists among us capitalize the Name of Jesus, the only Son of God, as appropriate. Same with Allah, not with llama, but with the Dalai Lama. And the Dolly Goat. human be in 17:31, 29 December 2007 (EST)
- Dolly was a sheep, dude. --Kels 17:32, 29 December 2007 (EST)
- That's deceit, Kels - cite your sources that prove Dolly was not a goat. And I don't want your liberally biased msm sources, either. Godspeed! -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- Dolly was a sheep, dude. --Kels 17:32, 29 December 2007 (EST)
- Just like when we aren't being totally snarky, the atheists among us capitalize the Name of Jesus, the only Son of God, as appropriate. Same with Allah, not with llama, but with the Dalai Lama. And the Dolly Goat. human be in 17:31, 29 December 2007 (EST)
[edit] apparently Islam is a "rational" religion
It didn't quite defy my expectations to see not only the article itself free from critisism of Islam, but a goon squad of editors enforcing reverence for Islam on the talk page as well.
I'm afraid to look at the Wicka page. LOL! — Unsigned, by: 24.1.56.87 / talk / contribs
- Ironically, if you had added any reasonably well-written critique of Islam (or its sects, or its fundamentalists), modern or historical, here or in the article, it would probably have survived. But all you did was make a mess. human be in 19:49, 23 February 2008 (EST)
- Er, right. Like that snark-free article on christianity you've got up there. I think I'd rather work on the mote in your eye.20:00, 23 February 2008 (EST)
- Actually, reading it (which I just did, thanks for asking, motivated by your very complaints), it seems to me that it's remarkably unsnarky. Pretty inaccurate in places, but that's mostly down to common misconceptions. --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
- I'll go add some snark, stat. PFoster 20:04, 23 February 2008 (EST)
- Go forth with my approval, my dense friend. My point is that you're a hypocrite. 20:08, 23 February 2008 (EST)
- I'll go add some snark, stat. PFoster 20:04, 23 February 2008 (EST)
- Actually, reading it (which I just did, thanks for asking, motivated by your very complaints), it seems to me that it's remarkably unsnarky. Pretty inaccurate in places, but that's mostly down to common misconceptions. --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
- Er, right. Like that snark-free article on christianity you've got up there. I think I'd rather work on the mote in your eye.20:00, 23 February 2008 (EST)
- I'm starting to wonder if this isn't Dr. Dolittle back again: similar pattern - axe to grind, pseudo-knowledge about Islam, atrocious grammar and spelling...PFoster 19:56, 23 February 2008 (EST)
- Isn't this website an axe-grinding effort? I mean, you're just a troll from the other site. Are you going to be all huffy and officious now with a brother troll?20:04, 23 February 2008 (EST)
[edit] Sorry...
Apparently i unlocked it as someone else did the same--made it re-lock. My bad...PFoster 22:21, 15 October 2008 (EDT)
- Huh? ħumanitarian aid 22:41, 15 October 2008 (EDT)
- It was locked. I clicked on release, wrote some snark in the box, clicked to submit. in the meanwhile, somebody else unlocked the article. When I entered my release, the articlre re-locked...PFoster 22:51, 15 October 2008 (EDT)

